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slisok	Unknown Vetterli model	Lead	[-]
Posts: 1 (08/18/08 12:07:10) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None New member here. I just got a vetterli at an auction and I've been trying to figure out exactly what it is. It has the sliding door over the magazine on the right side of the reciever and the magazine load lock on the left side of the reciever which would seem to make it a model 1869. But it has double set triggers and a shutzen style butt plate which I have not seen mentioned on this web site for 1869 models.There are no serial numbers visible ( I haven't taken it apart, and don't really want to ) and the only writing is the manufacturer on the left side of the reciever which is also not listed on the site , it says J. BRECHTBUHL and BEI THUN. Any help would be greatly appreciated!sorry for the poor pictures
Guisan		#1	[-]
Posts: 10657 (08/18/08 12:53:10) Contributing Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Welcome aboard ! Well what you have there is a civilian Stutzer rifle. According to "Schweizer Waffenschmiede" Johann Brechtbühl was a gunsmith located in Steffisburg and also in Gümligen, both close to Thun. He was assumed to be in business between 1860 and 1908 and he also was a official approved repair shop for military guns. Guisan. Fight to your last cartridge, then fight with your bayonets. No surrender. Fight to the death. Gen. Henri Guisan, Switzerland, July '40
slisok		#2	[-]
Posts: 2 (08/18/08 15:16:44) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Thank you for the information. Do you know if he made many of these, I tried some web searches on his name and found no information on him at all. Were they made for the civilian market or modified from old military surplus rifles?
wkato		#3	[-]
Posts: 807 (08/18/08 15:51:01) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	slisok Welcome to the forum, great rifle you have there. Would love to see some better pics if you get a chance, take it outside in the sun and shoot a few. If you want send the rifle to me and I'll store and keep it clean for you. Wes Swiss Flu Support Group Curio and Relics Firearms Forum Swiss Rifles Wes's home for wayward Vett's "Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory."
SharpRedOne		#4	[-]
Posts: 563 (08/18/08 16:34:24) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Wes is sooooooooo helpful. SRO Just moments after uttering "Why they couldn't hit an elephant at this distance", Major General John Sedgwick was killed by a round to the cheek by a Confederate sniper at a range of 800yds on May 9 1864.
slisok		#5	[-]
Posts: 3 (08/18/08 19:09:41) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I took some more photos that came out a little better but they don't do it justice,it looks a lot better in hand!
wkato		#6	[-]
Posts: 809 (08/18/08 20:07:37) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	We need a slobbering icon, you know one with a big ole pile of drool under it. Oh I so need that rifle, lucky you! SharpRedOne Am I being to obvious? Maybe I should say that the rifle is a bubba special and nothing special but I'd be willing to take it in hopes of making it a decent shooter. Hope he doesn't read this line, could spoil everything. Wes Swiss Flu Support Group Curio and Relics Firearms Forum Swiss Rifles Wes's home for wayward Vett's "Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory." Last Edited By: wkato 08/18/08 20:12:01. Edited 1 times.
Guisan		#7	[-]
Posts: 10665 (08/19/08 12:53:00) Contributing Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Well if he made many is hard to say, 1908 is long ago and I never looked much into civilian made rifles. Guisan. Fight to your last cartridge, then fight with your bayonets. No surrender. Fight to the death. Gen. Henri Guisan, Switzerland, July '40
slisok	Found this picture while looking for more	#8	[-]
Posts: 4 (08/19/08 20:33:24) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I was searching the web for any more information I can find on similar model guns and found ths picture. It is a gun on display at the Swiss Marksmanship Museum in Berne.Very similar except it has a different style stock and may be a single shot. Unfortunately it didn't say who made it,but definately the same buttplate(which by the way is very uncomfortable againt my shoulder!)
Don500		#9	[-]
Posts: 14 (08/20/08 05:21:16) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	The buttplate on both rifles appears to be the same one used on the Model 1851 Swiss Feldstutzer muzzle loading rifle. The 1851 model is a good target type buttplate, and presumably there would have been a lot of them available to Swiss gunsmiths as the 1851 rifles went out of military inventory. Regards, Don
Parashooter		#10	[-]
Posts: 1658 (08/20/08 07:15:41) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	". . . buttplate(which by the way is very uncomfortable againt my shoulder!)" Strongly curved buttplates are not intended to be placed on the shoulder, but rather on the upper arm above the biceps. For offhand shooting, this is generally a very comfortable and secure position.
slisok		#11	[-]
Posts: 5 (08/22/08 11:35:13) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Now for the bad news, the gun is missing the firng pin and striker! Can anyone help me out on where I might be able to get replacements. I'd hate to have to buy another vetterli just to get spare parts.I have been checking gun parts sites but have had no luck, only saw a couple of Italian bolts for sale.Which leeds me to another question: a lot of people are converting the rimfire bolts to centerfire and I was wondering if the Italian 6.5mm bolt combination firing pin/ striker is long enough to use in the 10.4mm bolts insted of the 2 piece system descibed on the other forum page?

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