I need help identifying this rifle

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steve
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28 Mar 2017, 05:45 #1

I have the rifle shown in the pictures, but have no idea what it is. It appears to be military, but has small elements of engraving.
It is approximately 43 to 45 calibre and has som similarity to so of the Swiss rifles I have seen on here.
There are no visible markings, although to date, I have not removed the barrel
Any help would be appreciated.

Steve

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Fabian23
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30 Mar 2017, 11:00 #2

Looks like a sporting rifle loosely inspired by a Swiss federal carbine (very loosely).  The presence of a bayonet lug does not necessarily indicate military use, it could be for a hunting bayonet or just as a feature to make it look military or it could even have been to comply with "servce rifle" type competition regulations.
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steve
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28 Apr 2017, 08:29 #3

Thanks Fabian
The rifle does have a hooked breech.
I will post pictures of the barrel markings

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steve
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28 Apr 2017, 08:32 #4

Barrel markings
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steve
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28 Apr 2017, 08:36 #5

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abacab
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28 Apr 2017, 10:33 #6

Belgian. There's a Liège proof there.
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Fabian23
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02 May 2017, 06:57 #7

The barrel is at least.  It doesn't exclude the possibility of it being stocked up and finished in CH, although Swiss civilian guns tend to be signed by the gunsmith on the lock, barrel or an insert plaque.
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RickEEngel
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02 May 2017, 18:05 #8

"Crown over N" is German, I believe............This piece has been around.....
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steve
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11 May 2017, 23:44 #9

The lock has two very small markings. GM and then a separate B

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