1911 Diopter Field Tests

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14 May 2017, 13:44 #1

Ok. Gents........... First, the group is 100 yards. All of the groups measured 1.55" I realized that I had run out of 100 yard targets, so......... My Daughter improvised.
My eyes are no longer that great with either open sights or Diopter, so most of you will do better than I did for sure. That should have been an easy MOA . Just too fuzzy for me anymore. If that 7" black cluster of pasters had been any smaller, I'd have been in trouble. It filled the aperture nicely leaving a thin ring of white around it.
The testing was done from the Accurite shooting device.
The front sight you see is the new EAS, but I ran another test using the original Type P/S front sight. It appears to be a good height alignment, but it'll be tomorrow before I can do this again.
 The Diopter itself is a definite "go for production." The k11 will have to be tested tomorrow with a standard front sight, but the alignment is perfect on the k11.
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warpspasm
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16 May 2017, 02:35 #2

Pierre, I don't see a front sight in the pictures. Could you describe the EAS front sight and how it differs from the standard SP front sight?
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16 May 2017, 22:04 #3

This is the prototype EAS sight. Elevation adjustable.
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This is the original P/S front sight. Fixed, but with the PS Diopter AND the new 1911 Diopter it still goes to 1,000+ yards.
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Wernher von Beige
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17 May 2017, 02:42 #4

Would it make sense to thread the FRONT of the front sight tunnel as well, to take a magnifying lens, like this?
http://www.intershoot.co.uk/acatalog/Eagle_Eyes.html
http://www.okweber.com/sights-irises-ba ... ifier-18mm
I have the older Swiss Products clamp-on, it doesn't have threads at the front. My understanding is that these magnifiers go on the front of the tunnel, not the rear of the tunnel behind the iris.
I realize that this is not legal for Swiss competition, but it IS legal for NRA competition (they allow one lens, front or rear your choice, but not both). Would be nice to have the option.
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deancon
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18 May 2017, 00:54 #5

Very nice!! What is the estimated time to production and to Graf's? Similar cost?
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Pierre.theswissriflesdotcommessageboard
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18 May 2017, 23:51 #6

Yes, I'll see about front aperture threads.

I'll have a production schedule by next Tuesday.
Might cost a bit less, actually.
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Leon
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19 May 2017, 01:08 #7

I also have been hounding "P" for some time to thread the front of the diopter hood for the Gehmann "Adlerauge." 
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warpspasm
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19 May 2017, 10:48 #8

My favorite 96/11 for shooting came with the receiver drilled for a rail. I would love to have the diopter modified in a way to allow rail mounting as opposed to using the 1911 clamp system. Is that possible to do?
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19 May 2017, 12:26 #9

All things are possible, however............
Minimum production startup is 100 units. It would take forever to sell that Diopter profile. Very few want to D/T their 1911 rifles.
That's a non-starter for me.
The new 1911 IS a clamp on type, but it's calibrated with height and center of axis for the 1911 Clamp On Mount. It would require an entirely different design and Mfg procedure for a D/T.

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Frederick303
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19 May 2017, 12:34 #10

If your action is drilled and tapped you could add the 11 mm rail and mount a Anschutz 6702 and be right and proper with the correct 1973 approved sight.

Wyss sells the rail and screw sets, along wth the front sight base which has the correct height to work with the 6702 sight.
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